Posted by: secretperson | October 6, 2008

The English Lobby – A Critique

Via the Witanagemot club and the Cross of St George blog I read that the English Lobby have launched a legal team to tackle anti-English discrimination.

The English Lobby seems to have been around for about three years and their director is Robin Tilbrook, chairman of the English Democrats Party. They have previously undertaken letter writing campaigns and well, lobbied, for fairness for the English and against what they percieve as anti-English discrimination.

The new initiative is a dedicated legal team providing free advice, and presumably support if the matter is to be taken further, on legal issues related to anti-English discrimination. Their wonderfully named legal representative is quoted in their press release

Mr Alan England, Head of the Legal Unit of the English Lobby, said: “For too long the protections provided by Race Relations legislation have not been enforced by English people. The English Lobby aims to right that wrong by providing access to free legal advice and assistance for all those aggrieved by anti-English Discrimination.”

So, what are my thoughts on this? My instinct is to be wary. I am a supporter of individual equality, rather than the tick-box group equality we currently seem to have, so this seems very much like playing a game I would rather didn’t exist. However, if other ethnic groups are lobbying and using the law for their own protection, I suppose it is good to have someone fighting the corner of the English ethnic group (and yes, they do legally exist). Where blatant discrimination exists, use the law. I believe the Steadfast Trust have tried to use Race Relations regulations before without success, but that is not to say it would never work. But I would rather undertake positive campaigns and try to avoid this except as an approach of last resort.

It seems though that most of their previous campaigns have been worthy, attacking the confused political correctness that attempts to deny us expression of our cultural self-confidence (a key phrase I believe, and a theme I may come back to at a later date). However I believe some of their analysis of the problems affecting English culture is misplaced. For example

Politicians have rarely taken much notice of England. The people themselves are in fact both peace loving and reserved, and suffer quite unfairly with being tarred with an “aggressive” label which is usually given to them by those minority interests who have taken the most advantage from the hard work of the English and who are least appreciative of our rich culture, heritage and way of life.

could easily be interpreted as equating ‘minority interests’ with ‘minority ethnic’ and I don’t think this is correct or fair. While minorites do use the law to their own interest, if this goes beyond what is fair to stop discrimination it is the law, and not the minorities who are to blame. Rather I feel it is politicians, who would no doubt call themselves British, but could well be considered English, who are to blame. While the English Lobby to point out they help members of the English public “irrespective of race or religion”, the talk of non-English groups living in England and taking advantage of the English needs more careful wording to avoid the appearance of racism.

If they were to look at their campaigns page and read who they complained to, and what about, you don’t see many ‘non-English groups’. Rather it is MPs, magistrates, local councils, quangos and the BBC. Too often it is well meaning, but misled English people, scared of causing offence, who instigate the anti-English culture and laws.

There are undoubtably certain members of ethnic minorities who cause a fuss and go too far. There are Islamic extremists, there are unelected community leaders and people who like to play the race card. But if these people are as disconnected from their communities as the Westminster politicians it seems highly unfair to share the blame. The best way to beat those who try and play an ethnic grievance game is not to play the same game ourselves.

It is cultural self-confidence that will win through. Stand up and say I am English and proud, fly the flag, celebrate St George’s day. Learn and teach about the fascinating history and culture of our nation, one that has given so much to the world. If our society is strong those who are against it will not win. Ignore the politically correct, for we are doing nothing wrong. If we want people to integrate, let us show them what we have, and why it is worth integrating into.

We do not need to feel guilty, nor do we need to feel defensive. England is a great land, and the English are a great people, and we can rightly feel proud!



  1. That’s a very inspiring post!

  2. My instincts are the same as yours, I wouldn’t touch this with a barge pole.

    Steadfast are an understandable consequence of communalism and multiculturalism – the majority ethnic group petitioning for group rights, aping the undersirable actions of minority ethnicities, races and religions.

    Remember that Jane Phillips who came across as a complete swivel-eyed lunatic on Channel 4’s “100% English”? She was Steadfast. I rest my case.

  3. I have to say that the English Lobby is not what I expected.

    I was hoping it would be a news site that would help co-ordinate Anglocentric opinion on daily issues in a similar way to the the Armchair Activists list.

  4. I read the ‘minority interests’ reference as more to the Scots and Welsh than ethnic minorities. I think there’s scope for legal challenges to the government’s treatment of the English; but more on the really big issues, such as: discrimination in broadcasting (dedicated Scottish and Welsh output but not English); improper conduct of elections (Scottish, Welsh and N. Irish voting on English matters that don’t directly concern them: effectively making UK general elections as they affect England gerrymandered, and not free and fair; denial of the status and rights of nationhood to England (versus partial admission of such rights for Scotland and Wales); the refusal to countenance a .eng Internet domain (versus the approval for a .ct domain – or whatever it is – for Catalonia, and the distinct possibility of .sco and .cym domains for Scotland and Wales); etc.

    These are the kind of really big causes where clever lawyers could have an impact and popular support could be mobilised.

  5. Well David, if it is just England’s place in the Union they are concerned about they should word it more carefully. They do mention this as a cause for concern, but also talk about those who

    “live in England and gain the benefits of an English education, commerce and quality of life”,

    “the English rarely enjoy any of the same rights so readily offered to people who have little connection to England” and

    “The English should be put FIRST in their own country”.

    I think, like Toque, this is a reaction to PC multi-culturalism, with some post-devolution stuff thrown in.

    I don’t mind legal action if the government does something illegal. But if you don’t agree with multi-culturalism, the answer is not to try and become one of the multi-cultures!

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